Rather, they requested to live unto the age of man. (3 Nephi 28:1-7) At the end of the Savior’s last visit to His twelve disciples as recorded in the Book of Mormon, He asked each of them what they desired. 4 And when he had spoken unto them, he turned himself unto the three, and said unto them: What will ye that I should do unto you, when I am gone unto the Father? He spoke to them of a time when they would perform a great and mighty work among the Gentiles; and that has not yet been fulfilled, but it will be. We know that the three Nephites will minister both among the Gentiles and to the House of Israel. ☼ 3 Nephi 28:21–22: And thrice they were cast into a furnace and received no harm. 3 Nephi 21:10. For do ye suppose that ye can get rid of the justice of an aoffended God, who hath been btrampled under feet of men, that thereby salvation might come? 3 Nephi 6. (D&C 63:50-51.) Christ asked his apostles and disciples throughout time what they desired ( D&C 7:1 ; 2 Chronicles 1:7 ; 3 Nephi 28:1 ). (The Belonging Heart, p. 153). After all, it sounds pretty good to be able to live forever (essentially) and just go around doing good all the time. The only stipulation required for them to show themselves is that they must pray to the Father in the name of Jesus for that power. Less obvious is why these instructions for the Church didn't come through the proper channels...Once again-the Lord does not govern his people by rumor." Tag: 3 Nephi 28 “I Inquired of the Lord” – Moroni 8:7. ☼ 3 Nephi 28:13: And behold, the heavens were opened, and they were caught up into heaven, and saw and heard unspeakable things. There are legends and stories which seem to be authentic, showing that these holy messengers were busy among the nations of the earth, and men have been entertained by them unawares. "Consider the lilies of the field" (3 Nephi 13:28, Matthew 6:28). 3 Nephi 28 And it came to pass that thus they did go forth among all the people of Nephi, and did preach the gospel of Christ unto all people upon the face of the land; and they were converted unto the Lord, and were united unto the church of Christ, and thus the people of that generation were blessed, according to the word of Jesus. They were transfigured when they were caught up into heaven and heard unspeakable things, and they were translated when a change was wrought upon their bodies whereby they would remain on the earth to bring souls to Christ. 28 They will also be among the Jews, and the Jews shall know them not. (Answers to Gospel Questions, vol. 23 And it came to pass that thus they did go forth among all the people of Nephi, and did preach the agospel of Christ unto all people upon the face of the land; and they were converted unto the Lord, and were united unto the church of Christ, and thus the people of bthat generation were blessed, according to the word of Jesus. Philip. 1 And it came to pass when Jesus had said these words, he spake unto his disciples, one by one, saying unto them: What is it that ye adesire of me, after that I am gone to the Father? And the converse is true. Acts 16:26; Alma 14:27 (26–28); 4 Ne. The "age of man" was set by the Lord at seventy-two. The numbers represent the verses in the chapter.) (Journal of Discourses, 25:236-37.). 28:8 (8–9). I expect that in the city of Enoch there are temples; and when Enoch and his people come back, they will come back with their city, their temples, blessings and powers." A few verses earlier it mentions that this is the same thing that John the Beloved asked for, so theoretically we have at least four people who are over 2000 years old, still on a mission for God. 3 Nephi 10. And it was forbidden them that they should utter; neither was it given unto them power that they could utter the things which they saw and heard.' Nine of them wanted to live “unto the age of man” and then to speedily return to His presence. Jesus Christ grants the desires of his righteous disciples. 15:22.) The stranger warns the members to accomplish some spiritual goal (food storage, genealogy, and so on) by a certain date because something apocalyptic is about to happen. "So moved was Mormon by this promise and the account of their deeds that he inquired of the Lord about their state. How did he speak unto them? Thus, even with the best set of genes, the best diet, and the best medicine, life cannot be extended much beyond the age of 100. Furthermore, the Nephites lacked the story of "Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-nego," but they had their own story of three righteous men cast into a furnace without receiving any harm (Dan 3:12-25; 6:10-24). 16 But it came to pass that they did again minister upon the face of the earth; nevertheless they did not minister of the things which they had heard and seen, because of the commandment which was given them in heaven. ☼ 3 Nephi 28:24–25: And now I, Mormon, make an end of speaking concerning these things for a time. Also, find key elements that help create unity as well as those that destroy it. We desire that after we have lived unto the age of man...that we may speedily come unto thee, after that ye are seventy and two years old, they sorrowed in their hearts for they durst not speak, ye have desired the thing which John, my beloved...desired of me, ye shall never endure the pains of death; but...shall be changed in the twinkling of an eye, ye have desired that ye might bring the souls of men unto me, your joy shall be full, even as the Father hath given me fulness of joy, the Father giveth the Holy Ghost unto the children of men, because of me, they were caught up into heaven, and saw and heard unspeakable things, whether they were in the body or out of the body, they could not tell, they were cast into a furnace and...into a den of wild beasts, they will be among the Gentiles, and the Gentiles shall know them not, they can show themselves unto whatsoever man it seemeth them good, wo be unto him that will not hearken unto...them whom he hath chosen, since I wrote, I have inquired of the Lord, They, like John the Revelator, will 'never taste of death', They will 'be changed in the twinkling of an eye from mortality to immortality' (This reaffirms that a translated being is still "mortal," for the change from mortality to immortality occurs at the Second Coming, see v. 8). 2 Ne. (Christ And The New Covenant, p. 306 - 307). You will find that many districts where the Elders of Israel cannot reach will be penetrated by these men who have power over death...My testimony is that these men are going abroad in the nations of the earth before the face of your sons, and they are preparing the hearts of the children of men to receive the Gospel. (D&C 42:46-47.) 3 Nephi 28:10 This is something that Christ said to the three Nephites who requested to remain on the Earth until the Second Coming, bringing people to the gospel. 3 Nephi 28 Jesus loves his twelve disciples. 3 NEPHI 28 – MORMON 3 Book of Mormon, Adult Institute Class, Monday, 5 April 2010 David A. LeFevre INTRODUCTION The transition from the magnificence of 3 Nephi to the wickedness and destruction of Mormon is quick and stark. 3 Nephi 28:36–40. Three of the Nephites, chosen here by the Lord Jesus as his Apostles, had the same promise--that they should not taste death until Christ came, and they still remain on the earth in the flesh." Rather, they will grow to the age of seventy-two before this transformation will take place, he that liveth when the Lord shall come, and hath kept the faith, blessed is he; nevertheless, it is appointed to him to die at the age of man, Wherefore, children shall grow up until they become old; old men shall die; but they shall not sleep in the dust, but they shall be changed in the twinkling of an eye (DC 63:50-51, italics added). 11:32; Ether 5:4; Moses 6:66. He is not allowed to tempt those who belong to a terrestrial order which includes all those who have been translated. They specifically requested to come unto thee in thy kingdom. Please review our current Faith Groups list for information on which faith groups are considered to be Christian faiths. Fulfilling the prophecy, Jones returned to Wales and brought thousands of new converts to the Church. As recorded in Jn 21:21-23 and DC 7, John the Beloved was translated just like the three Nephites. Indeed, this is the stuff that legends are made of. 34 And wo be unto him that will anot hearken unto the words of Jesus, and also to them whom he hath chosen and bsent among them; for whoso creceiveth not the words of Jesus and the words of those whom he hath sent receiveth not him; and therefore he will not receive them at the last day; 35 And it would be better for them if they had not been born. Nine of them asked to quickly enter His kingdom when the work on earth was completed… The message to all of us is the same, the thing which will be of the most worth unto you will be to declare repentance unto this people, that you may bring souls unto me, that you may rest with them in the kingdom of my Father. 3 Nephi 28. The forums in the Christian Congregations category are now open only to Christian members. When Jesus asks his 12 Disciples in the Americas, all of them except for 3 say they want to have a good long life serving God, and then quickly return to live with Him in heaven. It is also the stuff that rumors and Mormon "urban legends" are made of. Their experience was almost identical to that of the Apostle Paul, who wrote of himself saying: 'I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven. They’re actually never referred to as the three Nephites in the Book of Mormon, so maybe they weren’t even Nephites. CLICK HERE to read 3 Nephi 28. If all the scriptures regarding Christ’ ministry were available, it would be clearly evident that these prophesies would indeed be fulfilled. This is what happened to Moses, to Paul (2 Cor 12:2-4), to Jesus, Peter, James, and John (Matt 17:31-9), to Joseph Smith (JS-Hist 1:17, DC 137:1), to the three Nephites and others. Their place of habitation is that of the terrestrial order, and a place prepared for such characters He held in reserve to be ministering angels unto many planets, and who as yet have not entered into so great a fullness as those who are resurrected from the dead. Supposedly some good members driving to conference are stopped in the desert between Las Vegas and St. George by a man dressed in black. 3 Nephi 28. One could argue that the Lord, as the premier scientist and physician, was well aware of the average rate of physical decay and therefore set the "age of man" appropriately. 27 And behold they will be aamong the Gentiles, and the Gentiles shall know them not. I appreciate Mormon’s example in the passage above. The Lord blesses us according to our righteous desires. What insight does D&C 7 give on the state of the three disciples?. ), "Now it was evident that there was a better resurrection, or else God would not have revealed it unto Paul. This, we might add, is why Paul wrote: 'Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.' 25 Behold, I was about to write the anames of those who were never to taste of death, but the Lord forbade; therefore I write them not, for they are hid from the world. Who hasn't heard a story about how one of the three Nephites appeared to someone in our day? The Nephites were not to have an inferior or incomplete scriptural record. (Conference Report, Oct. 1902, p. 75 as taken from Latter-day Commentary on the Book of Mormon compiled by K. Douglas Bassett, p. 463). Chapter 28. One example is given: "The 'Nephites on the Mesa' [story] has also been around for at least thirty years. (Clyde J. Williams, Book of Mormon Symposium Series, 3 Nephi 9-30, edited by PR Cheesman, MS Nyman, and CD Tate, Jr., 1988, p. 246), "The question is one of faith. 3 Nephi 28 Vs 1- Who did he speak unto? Even when sincere and significant, those satisfactions only last 'for a season,' for He who has known full and true joy has so said. Thus, translated beings do not suffer death as we normally define it, meaning the separation of body and spirit; nor do they receive a resurrection as we ordinarily describe it, meaning that the body rises from the dust and the spirit enters again into its fleshly home. Interestingly, the Lord never said anything about the record of Daniel even though this record was not part of the brass plates of Laban. 12 And it came to pass that when Jesus had spoken these words, he touched every one of them with his finger save it were the athree who were to tarry, and then he departed. 8:10 (10–12); Ether 12:17. As they go about anonymously, we can go about our good deeds with humility, not expecting rewards other than knowing we have served. 3 Nephi 28:11 by LDS Scripture of the Day | posted in: Book of Mormon | 0 And the Holy Ghost beareth record of the Father and me; and the Father giveth the Holy Ghost unto the children of … Their desires had become like the Father and the Son-they had become one with God. There are many things which belong to the powers of the Priesthood and the keys thereof, that have been kept hid from before the foundation of the world; they are hid from the wise and prudent to be revealed in the last times. 3 Nephi 28-30 3 Nephi 28. 3 Nephi 28 This is the great mystery of the Book of Mormon, who are the three Nephites, and where are they and what do they do? Read 3 Nephi 28:12-23, Guide to the Scriptures, "Translated Beings," Guide to the Scriptures, "Transfiguration," and Guide to the Scriptures, "Three Nephite Disciples." There are no exceptions, not even among translated beings. Bookmarks. Experts in human longevity and life expectancy have found that there are internal determinants of life expectancy. When He returns, they will “be changed in the twinkling of an eye from mortality to immortality” (3 Nephi 28:8). 24 And now I, aMormon, make an end of speaking concerning these things for a time. They learn 'precept upon precept; line upon line...here a little, and there a little' (Isa 28:10). 2, p. 46), "...in a little while you will find another prophecy will be fulfilled, and that is the prophecy that Jesus made to the three Nephites who, having power over death, are still living upon this continent. We would suppose that walls and other mortal barriers are also insignificant. Because of their extraordinary powers and the prophetic words of the Savior himself, which we do not yet possess, Mormon prophesied that 'great and marvelous works shall be wrought by them, before the great and coming day' of the Lord (v 31)." Richard Cowan succinctly stated, "We are telestial mortals, translated beings are terrestrial mortals, while exalted resurrected beings are celestial immortals." He recounts the story of Dan Jones, a Welsh convert to the Church who was with Joseph Smith on the night before the prophet was murdered. 3 Nephi 30. Read 3 Nephi 28:1-11.. How did Jesus speak to His disciples? 1:30; Morm. As a matter of doctrine, death is universal; every mortal thing, whether plant or animal or man, shall surely die. They feared that their unusual request would be met with a reprimand. Jesus grants their request. Elder Paul B. Pieper: “In the process of taking the Savior’s name upon us, we must understand that the cause or Christ and of His Church are one and the same. "They wanted to tarry until Jesus came, and that they might, He took them into the heavens and endowed them with the power of translation, probably in one of Enoch's temples, and brought them back to the earth. Unfortunately, most of these stories are highly suspect. Footnotes. 3 Nephi 28. 3 Nephi 28 – 3 Nefi 28. 9 And again, ye shall not have pain while ye shall dwell in the flesh, neither sorrow save it be for the asins of the world; and all this will I do because of the thing which ye have desired of me, for ye have desired that ye might bbring the souls of men unto me, while the world shall stand. As Mormon finishes writing the account the Jesus’ ministry among the people, he is about to write the names of the three disciples granted immortality, but the Lord forbids it. 3 Nephi 15. Bonus: Read D&C 7. Vs 2- What did all but three of them desire? 3 Nephi 28 (Below is a list of questions that help me think about each verse as I read it. The word "mortal" in this sense, means a being whose body and spirit have not been permanently united by the resurrection. "It is reasonable to believe that they were engaged in this work as far as the Lord permitted them to go during these years of spiritual darkness (the Great Apostasy). This passage teaches us an important lesson. 2 And they all spake, save it were three, saying: We desire that after we have lived unto the age of man, that our ministry, wherein thou hast called us, may have an end, that we may speedily come unto thee in thy kingdom. This is why Satan must be cast out during the Millenium, for the earth will be a terrestrial kingdom for those 1000 years, and Satan just doesn't belong to that order, not even as a devil. 1. 3 Nephi 28:25-40. Theme. 3 NEPHI 28-THE THREE DISCIPLES. About A.D. 34–35. Jacob said: 'Death hath passed upon all men, to fulfil the merciful plan of the great Creator.' Mormon learns about the nature of translated beings. 3 Nephi 13. (Meek And Lowly, p. 46). The disciples didn't ask to go speedily to spirit paradise after death. When Jesus taught the people all these things, He called the disciples one at a time to ask what they wanted of Him after He goes back to the Father (verse 1). I believe He took them to Enoch's city and gave them their endowments there. (3 Nephi 28:34-35. 36 And now behold, as I spake concerning those whom the Lord hath chosen, yea, even three who were caught up into the heavens, that I knew not whether they were acleansed from bmortality to immortality—. Do we fear to ask the Lord for unusual things? BookofMormonReader 69 views. They are to be hidden from the world. That is not their calling and ministry. 3 Nephi 28 - Online Resources for teachers and leaders of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints 3 Nephi 3. TG Mortality 30 - 3 Nephi 28 We have found mortality contrasted to immortality already, but here in Third Nephi we find mortality as one end of a spectrum with immortality being on the other. Remind students that when Mormon first wrote about the transfiguration of the Three Nephites, he said that he did not fully understand the change in their physical condition during their ministry on the earth (see 3 Nephi 28:17 ). Ether. (1 Cor. Christ in America Timeline. 3 Ne. 31:18 (17–21); 3 Ne. Nine of them wanted to live “unto the age of man” and then to speedily return to His presence. They survive being cast in burning furnaces and dens of wild beasts. That holy gift is a result of the Atonement: 'The Father giveth the Holy Ghost unto the children of men, because of me,' the Savior said. 1:37 (14, 37); Morm. 3 Nephi 4. . 5 And they sorrowed in their hearts, for they durst not speak unto him the thing which they desired. In the reign of Nerva John was recalled, and afterwards wrote his epistles. 2. 3 Nephi 28:8-22 Speaking to the three who desired to tarry until He returned, Christ told them they will never experience death. 3 Nephi 28-30 (June 8, 2014) I used to wonder about the choice of the Three Nephites – not that they made it, but rather why it was commendable. The man in black then asks to be let out, and as the car drives away, he vanishes from sight. 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